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9/11 Synchronicities

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When one brings up the fascinating connections made by Synchromystic researchers, skeptics often retort with a simple "so what?" However, synchromysticism may be a more accessible spiritual path for our entertainment-fixated minds, as it often sees popular culture as a field for synchronicity. In this new video interview, blogger Jake Kotze uses synchromystic research to tie together 2001's black monolith, the pyramids of Giza, 9/11, Stargate portals, and "an opening of cosmic consciousness.


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Interesting...

...I could be taking the video too literally but the (for me) tenuousness of some of the links he makes impresses on me how personal and relative synchromysticism must be a lot of the time. The Kurt Russel thing, for example, doesn't do much for me considering the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon factor in Hollywood - and the jump from two towers to two pyramids also...but it could just be gaps in my knowledge of masonry and ancient Egypt.

 

Perhaps I'm more skeptical than i thought, or have so far only experienced 'personal' synchronicities and not tried to take them further to deduce cultural or mass consciousness implications. The monolith building is eerie though, hadn't heard of that.

9/11

I confess I also need help with this 'mega-ritual' business, from what i've seen it seems tenuous as hell. I mean the evidence put forward for it. Leaving aside the inside job debate on which i try to remain firmly and consciously undecided: Yes 9/11 and 7/7 were psychic shocks to the public - but for me that shock was more in the order of "the state terrorism and cynical greedy carve up of the middle east engaged in by Britain and the U.S. has finally come home to roost", in a shocking way, and no I don't think anyone 'deserved' it but at the same time, on reflection, I'm not so surprised it happened. I mean to say that I don't hold with this 'everything was changed utterly on 9/11/01, the world was psychically ravaged!', I just don't know, maybe it was, but not in the same way for everybody. It seems a kind of Western hazy hubris to impart a single occult meaning to the events.

 

Jason Louv wrote in an article somewhere, possibly in Generation Hex, that one of the paranoia-inducing effects of unbalanced occult investigation or practice is the dogmatic imparting of one-to-one meanings between things. Bob Shea and Bob Wilson pointed out the often absurd results of this in Illuminatus - and as Progpaganda Anonymous' interview with R.A.W elaborates it is possible to graduate to a broader and happier perspective. Not that i've gotten there myself... Hope I haven't gone off topic or stirred up topics I don't know enough about yet, sorry.

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1 - 2 - 1

The Synchromystic perspective is to treat all things, from galaxies to amoebae, as one-to-one relationships. It is not an easy road to follow and does literally require a "re-formatting" of the mind into 2 partitions - a lower partition for the mundane and an upper partition for the extraordinary. While the partitions may have similar "file systems," the real difference between them is irreconcilable. This is to say that one has to accept that a matter so broad as "truth" comes with an inherent, intractable chasm in it. For example, in another of Jake's myriad interviews he posits that 9/11 is nothing less than a direct hit upon us, through time, by Nazis themselves. From the "lower house's" perspective this cannot be factually true since Nazi Germany was destroyed in WWII. However, the perspective of the upper house is that Jake is correct & 9/11 was, symbolically, an end product of Nazi ideology. This fact vs. resonance dynamic is something would-be Synchromystics need to deal with. Fundamental duality can never be resolved, and ironically, once this fact is accepted, you can incorporate and apply it for selfish or for greater gain...sometimes even for both.

 

With relief, with humiliation, with terror, he understood that he too was a mere appearance, dreamt by another. - Jorge Luis Borges, The Circular Ruins

I dont need 'lower house higher house' thingymajig

It is plain to me that mindset of Nazi Germany never went nowhere!!

You are familiar with Skull&Bones secret society and symbolism I take it?

nazi ideology

seems to be alive and well...dying out finally with the Bush regime. history always repeats, even more rapidly, in the time wave.

 

anyway, to provoke this thread...

can't we just view lots of these secret societies as old folks clingin' to their dying symbols and rituals? or are we faced with all-out spiritual war? i personally prefer the "they're silly old white men" approach...but i don't bow down to a stone effigy of an owl either (which seems to carry quite a bit of symbolic clout if you take it in a non-dualistic sense!)

 

i digress tho---

 

should truth seekers really dwell on such things for far too long?

 

we should be on the cutting edge, not just trying to figure out what the decomposing leadership is up to.

 

wanderlust

 

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The wrong word?

OK, I'm not pedantic enough to bring someone up for using an unusual word like "synchronicity" wrongly in a pub. But really, if you're dedicating your life to it, you'd think you'd take the time to get in right - right? Where has the "chron" part of the word vanished to here? Jung called it "temporally coincident occurrences of acausal events". Isn't this stuff just acausal symbolic connections, across time? Ah well, I sense it's probably futile holding onto the precise definition of something that's perceived as hopelessly woolly anyway! And I guess "we all know what he means".

As far as it forming the basis of a spiritual path goes, that seems to be a wrong-headed overreach. This sort of exercise in relation to spiritual progress is like jogging in relation to being healthy. Sure, our culture's intuitive muscles are pretty out of shape, either impotent or spasming into paranoia. We could do with some regular exercize. But it's hardly all there is to it.

true that.

its merely an exercise. but it can help in everyday life to see the cosmic "hand" at work, so to speak. once you're open to it, the synchronicities really do take on a life of their own. i guess a way to communicate that in western culture without people ignoring you is to talk about popular culture. it makes for a provocotive grounding for the unconscious min of postmodern civilization...

still, i completely agree that we need to be active and not just passively getting sucked into the spectacle of it all, but that we should be creating constantly. the synch-path can be exhilirating but it should be used as a tool to find your way, not as the end-all amusement park.

 

wanderlust

 

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butcher the English language por favor

synchromysticism- it's a conscious spin-off from synchronicity- they're butchering and re-inventing on purpose. some of my butcherins: stinkronicity- unfortunate coincidences that stink sphincronicity- coincidences of an anal kind For more words from the cunnilinguistic dickshunary visit: www.tribes.tribe.net/themaddening What do Jung and Merriam Webster know anyway?
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when the synchronicities

stack up, i got that from Robert Anton Wilson, we have the initial approach to it through Jung, he gave us the language to begin to grok the phenomenon.WE can either see it through the poetic connection, in a just seeing some strange connect possible, or then it can be taken in a more active creative approach, so if you are a writer, an artist and or a poet then if you do say like what William Burroughs did in the cut up method, you begin to see these "coincidences" seem to begin to have some kind of peculiar resonance, between external events and our own psychic experience.

however, even if you read certain material about say, conspiracy theory, and secret societies, that RAW said we had to know about to begin to understand history, even so it is easy to fall into a regular mental groove, so even if you connect 9/11 with (obvious nefarious black op) as far as the creative flow of the unconscious images that pop up , i imagine that one needs to keep the different realms some what in a balance with the say, positive side of what the psychic part of this points to.

stacked high

great post cjmoore. always interested to hear what you have to say. sorry to have seen some haters come after you recently.

 

it seems that the evidence with 9-11, with a dash of synchromystic flavor, shows that it was an unconscious event, and that alone is reason for examination of its effects on consciousness, if what we're experiencing on this planet creeping up at ever-increasing speed toward galactic alignment is to be taken seriously---must we know what's happening to us?i would prefer a few glimpses, but i would prefer not to experiment with lots of psychedelics (it seems that once you've been tuned into cosmic conscoiusness, you can likely remember the frequency)---so hence, i enjoy the synchromystic view, because of how un-dual and un-causal it is. i think that practicing this "maybe" logic and keeping a sense of humor would be key to understanding our condition!

 

resonance really seems to lead us to see novel connections, to be more mindful.

 

the upper and lower brain circuits can live harmoniously, its all about teaching your mind to accept different possible realities and to detach from the illusions that claim to "explain it all!"

 

peace

 

wanderlust

 

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i see the high stacks

my whole life has been 9/11, since i was born on that day, and on 9/11/73 i saw it, so i had to teach my mind to keep stacking the stack high, people don't see my sense of humor, so they miss the point in the zero.I have to see the forest and the trees.For me LSD was like a medicine, it got me through my teenage years, at least, then all i wanted to do was study and read everything, so i could keep my sense of humor intact.It comes in my writing, the poetic license that i got for being an 11 person.It's like if i could just write some great lyrics as good as Dylan, or Bo Diddly, or paint a great painting like Picasso, or write a crazy poem novel about 67 68.If i could have been a musician like my first trip buddy, who i played saxophone with in jams, if i could have been the sax player and written lyrics, or the artist i wanted to be, but i stuck my head in books, and read all the philosophy i could, just to write like i do, to find that resonance energy between the 1 and the 1. Because the pillars rise and the pillars fall, and the song remains the same.You know that feelin when they pass through time gate, when all that memory floods back, like in the space odyssey 2001? it came out in 1968 right?

Another synchronicity seeker

McKinney for Prez

vote green knows whats up.

that website is difficult as heck to follow, but its absolutely brilliant, and truly a lot of the other cats pull from Goro Adachi because of his astro-calculus...

 

got my McKinney stickers.

waiting for there to be some attention on her...

wanderlust

 

Synchromysticism = Internet thinking

Non-linear, link this to that thinking. Synchromysticists (a bit of a pretentious name there) are on a high horse when they say it's some form of spirituality. Pillarmids, Freemasons, megarituals- it's all big stuff for sure. What they do is open a way to creatively research these things further, which is good. The Bay Area Filmmaker Craig Baldwin has been doing this for awhile. Watching his labyrinthian, underground films would give you a little more perspective on the form. In his film collages, there's also has a lot of humor and "truth," but the mysticism is just at a personal level anyways.It's true hollywood films are full of occult symbols and predictive programming, but there is also the choice to ignore them. And if there is really something there, is it good to know? So moviegoing masses are processing it subconsciously while the ones who are "awake" can see.You can decipher all you want, but it takes time to turn the tables.

Have to agree with most comments here...

There is certainly something a little pretentious about the 'spiritual path of syncromysticism' but then each to their own i suppose. Maybe he knows something we don't. In all liklihood, he does! And isnt that sorta the point? I mean, everyone knows what they know for their own self and reasons. Thats the cosmic hand at work isn't it? Its great when we can connect and working towards greater connections is great too, but sometimes the conspiracies can hide the so-called truth.

Liked what someone here said about our intuitive muscles, many either dormant and atrophied or spasming into paranoia. So true!

Have to say too, v interesting about the millenium hilton being intentionally designed that way!

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This post blew my mind!

I've been experiencing an increasing number of synchronicities lately--several of which are directly related to this post and Reality Sandwich as a whole. In fact, I wrote a post about "Twitter Telepathy" in June for RS that was riffing on the idea of unspoken communication...

http://tinyurl.com/4qjpyp

Although it is against my general nature as a skeptic to believe in these sorts of things, the overwhelming number of occurrences--including my initial discovery of RS and before that, Daniel's book 2012, has made me realize that there is definitely something to it! For example, I am currently working on a novel, and part of the story is about a mysterious boy who is injured during the collapse of the Twin Towers. Recently, I felt compelled to see the movie 2001, which I'd never seen before, and was blown away by elements of the plot which resonated with what I'd already written. I reworked some parts to include the movie in the general plot.

Yesterday, I was doing more research on Alex Grey's artwork, Gaia, which I was led to through a comment by ST Frequency here on RS (for a post about 9/11) as a prophetic work that seems to predict the disaster back in 89. http://www.alexgrey.com/a-gallery/8-24/gaia.jpg

My research took me to Jake Kotze's blog (the dood in this video) which I read for a while with interest. Then, I went for lunch, came back to my computer, and saw this article posted by Wanderlust on RS!! Holy coincidence, Batman!

As a New Yorker who witnessed 9/11 here in the city, it goes without saying that the event changed my life. I knew at the time, however, even as I was crossing a bridge to Brooklyn with a cloud of destruction over my head, that this was somehow just the beginning...although I never, in my wildest dreams, believed it would be the turning point towards a new world--tho now it seems undeniable.

I know it all seems pretty kooky if it's not happening to you-but if it IS happening to you, as I'm SURE it is for many out there--know that you are not alone! My advice is to keep aware, keep clear headed, and don't go crazy trying to figure out what everything "means". Let things happen and go with the flow--if you are aware and at peace, you may start noticing "more"...if you do, please communicate it! Comment about it here! Send me an email! Write a blog post or create a piece of art about it! It seems nuts but I feel that the more we share the synchronicities, the greater the "positive feedback loop" (a phrase invented by someone else--a fellow RS writer, in fact-- who I've been emailing with about these uncanny occurrences) becomes.

Don't get hung up on names or labels--I don't like the name synchromysticism or whatever so much either, but who cares what it's called. The point is, it is HAPPENING!! Communication is like an amplifier, it seems...so please, don't be afraid! find a way to get it out!!

peace and love,

jp

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MORE 9/11 Synchronicities...

 



In the magazine below (pdf - free download) see the article on page 52, The Archetypal & Supernatural Aspects of  Septmeber 11th  - it'll REALLY bake your noodle...
  

http://www.tortuga.com/portal/news/2c-hidden-powers-episode

 

"The devil's cleverest ploy is to persuade you he doesn't exist." - Charles Baudelaire 
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Reading Symbols

The connection of symbols, as they are presented here, do not work for me. But, I don't think that necessarily makes them invalid.

 

As an artist, I am always exploring repeating patterns, those moments of synchronicity, that lead me on a path toward a vision and ultimately a painting. I rarely explain these symbols or the path to others, because most people would not see how such a trail would culminate in my creation. I think most symbols, when set in a series or a group, are meant to speak to the "viewer" alone. It is the subconscious or the spirit that "reads" the message. The message is designed for that particular person, who has a past and particular way of experiencing the world, that is likely not shared by other people.

 

One thing from the video presented here, that pauses me to wonder. With the destruction of the towers, is there an implication that such a thing was destined to occur? If so, what does that mean for the people who committed the act? Are they exempt from responsibility, because they were following a path predestined for them? If they were meant to destroy the towers, and they refused, would they be disrupting the synchronicity, and thus, throwing the system into chaos? I wonder, with the way that the narrator views these symbols, how is this addressed?

DoAn

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seems

to have occurred again and again.

it's time for us to wake up and learn.

which we are doing, thankfully.

don't let evil zombies run the globe.

don't trust leaders because they tell us what we want to hear... know their deeds!

 

thanks for the post, invoking the word destiny makes your question a tricky one. it seems like unfortunate providence, it certainly happened with a great deal of mystery and almost miraculously for those who may have willed it...they may not have thought it could really work until someone pushed the red button on the operation...but i'm convinced that it shows the power of the collective unconscious, and that we may have had such a weak administration in terms of planning and defense that they did just "let" it happen. they may not have known why, the financial and political reasons are enough.

 

all these motives aside, it's an a-causal event in my book

 

wanderlust

 

Flipping tables, throwing chairs.

Time is a complacency mechanism for production efficiancy, i'll use it to my advantage rather than the converse. While I agree this deciphering of phenomena, or, conjoining of crusty-old-white-dudes fetishes with pop-culture is largely fruitless. I would be more inclined to point towards the immediate necessity of action now rather than acting later. I argue that it does not in fact take time to turn tables unless youre slaving with the incultured and thus misinformed. Just flip the damn table and throw the damn chair already. Like anything else, synchronicities can be a gateway or a trapping of the mind. Too much talk lessens its value

Symbols and the conscious intent to do 9/11 etc

First for the poster above who imagines that Skull n Bones and secret societies are just for greay haired old men?

No. I think your wrong there. VERY wrong. First see whats going on, and then we can see what to do.

Also poster thinks 9/11 was an 'unconscious' event?

Errrrm, no.

 It was planned METICULOUSLY!!!

I would advise not to confuse the general 'synchromysticism' video refers to, and the definate occultist symbolism and numerology connected to the event of '9/11', as well as London's '7/7' ('777' actually!).

Listen, when these perps organize dates for their gangster doings round the world--such as speeches, placing monuments, 'going to the moon', exploding the atomic bomb, etc etc etc. They do not do this UNconsciously, but very consciously. On precise dates, at places whose numbers match their numerology, and so on. Now, having said that. These people are not 'gods'. There are also an unconscious happenings that they are not aware of. And maybe that is what that syncmyst stuff is referring to...?

 

To try and explain~~~~It is like, YES, everything is connected. Surely we see and feel this extraordinarily clearly when we take entheogens.

Everything is connected in a benevolent way. The Web of Life. It is BENEVOLENT. But a mindset that intently wants to cause harm for profit is really not in the best interests of a Web of Life, because it IS trying to destroy it!!

So SUB their 'clever-arsed vile toxic doings' is a FAR FAR deeper intelligence that can be gleaned by the aware. On all different level.

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Beneviolence

BENEVIOLENT- killing with kindness Hey Zezt- I like your posts. Would be cool if you had a picture by your name just to make it pop all zesty style. You are so right about the meticulously planned nature of occult political conspiracies. I feel that intuitively. Besides, the Bin Laden family is old friends with the Bush family.
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Fake "synchronicities..."


Unfortunately the film does not make the distinction between real (or “natural”) synchronicities and engineered/man-made synchronicities.

Take for instance the passport belonging to one of the supposed hijackers which flew out of the airplane through a ball of fire and landed on the street near the World Trade Center to be found by an intrepid “official” which in turn helped make the case against the "Muslim motley crue." Gee, what a *synchronicity* that was! Proof was needed and it just so appeared... on the street as it were. Hell, check out his NAME as well...

ABCNEWS sources identify another hijacker as Satan
Suqami, a Saudi national on American Airlines Flight 11, whose passport was recovered in the rubble.”  [Oh them "evil" hijackers...]
 
From:  
http://911research.wtc7.net/cache/disinfo/
deceptions/abc_hunt.html
 

Obviously (to those “in the know”), September 11th was a magical ritual with specific purposes in mind.

Oddly enough, the 9/11 magical endeavor is doomed to failure by the very workings of magic. As the dudes behind this business were offered particular “treasures” by a cunning and lying group of entities.... 

As one of the axioms of Chaos Magic states: “Nothing is True, Everything is Permitted.”

Indeed…..


"Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap."    - Universal Law

 

7/7

Zest do you mind me asking how is '7/7' '777 actually', and what do u think that means if it is?
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Power Symbols

If you believe there's no meaning to certain symbols, you need to do some esoteric research. When spirit manifests into matter, it crosses through a symbolic plane. Call it what you will...the symbolosphere, the psycliptic, or whatever, this plane is actually more real than physical matter is. Within this symbolic plane, certain symbols are imbued with innate power. The Christian cross is a power symbol. The Jewish seal-of-solomon is a power symbol. The ancient (counter-clockwise) swastika is a power symbol. The Asian yin-yang is a power symbol. The Muslim crescent is a power symbol. These can all be counted among "middle-aged" power symbols. Middle-aged power symbols can all be called "of the lever." Among the older power symbols are the circle, square, triangle, pentagram, vesica piscis, figure 8 sideways (infinity), line (wavy, zig-zag, etc.), spiral, the needle and the semi-circle. Older power symbols can be called "of the cleaver." Among newer power symbols would be the all-seeing-eye (back of a buck), or any variants such as Alex Grey's "eye of spirit," as well as modern alphabets, numbers, mathematical operators, punctuation marks, etc. The Nazi (clockwise) swastika is a newer power symbol. The symbols for bio-hazards & nuclear radiation could be called newer power symbols. Even the symbol for the artist-formerly-known-as-Prince is a modern power symbol. Newer power symbols can all be called "of the gear." My point is, these symbols are all very real & all do very real things. It's important to note that any symbol is strictly 2-dimensional & that while they may have 3D reflections, such as the triangle that morphs into the pyramid (tetrahedron), or needles that morph into pillars, their 3D projections exist in the realm of material & not in the symbolic. So, the person who intuited that 9/11 was less a date and more of a numerical device of some sort is absolutely correct. Numbers are symbols. Symbols do things. What happened in 3D reality on 9/11 is but a projection of the deeper, 2D reality concerning this symbol. It's very likely that, in the symbolic, the symbol 11/9 is equally significant to that of 9/11. If I told you anything more I'd have to kill you all!

 

With relief, with humiliation, with terror, he understood that he too was a mere appearance, dreamt by another. - Jorge Luis Borges, The Circular Ruins

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Interesting...


IronEye wrote...
It's very likely that, in the symbolic, the symbol 11/9 is equally significant to that of 9/11. If I told you anything more I'd have to kill you all!

Glad to see a ceremonial magician making an informed comment on this matter.

Would you still have to kill us if you told us the occult meaning of the numbers "9" & "11"? 

"The manifestation of a being - a spirit - in a triangle is but one aspect of ritual magic, and no being will be fully manifested unless the magician understands the whole symbolism of the magic triangle. To get the right idea of this symbolism one must...have a complete knowledge of the secret of the number three. The more one knows about the analogy of the mystical number three, the deeper one will be able to penetrate into the symbolism of the triangle one draws and the easier it will be for a being to manifest itself." - Franz Bardon, Practice of Magical Evocation

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Thanx

For the compliment, Mysterio, I find the title of "ceremonial magician" oddly comforting. As for the symbols "9" and "11," these do both have particular meanings, but it isn't either symbol alone that's most interesting. These meanings pale in comparison to their operation in tandem. This is why 11/9 is equally significant to 9/11 in the symbolic. For yet another hint (in addition to the boy/girl paradox hint), examine Pascal's Triangle, particularly the n=14, 15 & 16 lines. See anything strange happening there related to the Fibonacci Sequence? Don't stop at n=16, though, take it all the way to n=20. Ask yourself how Pascal's Triangle relates to probability...and the "coin-toss" in particular. That's where the magic of the symbol 9/11 (or 11/9) truly is. When I hear the term,"9/11," I prefer to think of this magic rather than of that horrid date. It gives one piece of mind. That misspelling was intentional, BTW.

 

With relief, with humiliation, with terror, he understood that he too was a mere appearance, dreamt by another. - Jorge Luis Borges, The Circular Ruins

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more room to dream in

we can't forget that thousands of real people died on 9-11.

this stuff is pretty entertaining, and may sometimes feel frivolous considering the real impact of lives lost.

but i also believe that sometimes the only way we can process traumatic events is by dreaming them, by chemically transforming our conceptions of reality around the matter so that we can be more at peace with life.

i've been enjoying jake kotze's blog all summer and will continue to stop in to see what he's up to.

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Yes but

...what do you think 9/11 and 7/7/2+5=7 actually mean or signify then?

 

"If you believe there's no meaning to certain symbols" I'm inclined to think there's multiple possible meanings to symbols, multiple ways of experiencing a symbol's 'reality' and ritual significance. I could do more esoteric study in this area of numerology, but what would that tell me, or what has it told you, about 9/11 etc.? This kind of numerological thinking seems to have a certain set of assumptions that I'm not clued into yet, and Zest seems to claim it has to do with conscious meticulous planning (I'm not saying u think this). That's kind of more what i meant. I think what Doan says above about symbols speaking to each viewer individually and severally, expresses what I mean pretty well.

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Abductive Reasoning

The deeper meaning to the symbol 9/11 is not some kind of numerological mumbo-jumbo, but is rather mathematical reality. It speaks to an old stigma that humanity fell prey to & that most have all but forgotten of. This is to say that the symbol of 9/11 (or 11/9) gives evidence to the fact that 99.99999% of our "civilization" operates under a great deception. To unlock the mystery of it is to "de-stigmatize" the initiate so ancient memories will begin to return & they'll see how they'd been deceived all this time. This is something that could more aptly be called "wisdom" than "intelligence." One probably has to be of a certain age, say 36, to even appreciate it. The symbolic is a realm of the blind, the symbol of 9/11 (or 11/9) is a technology of the blind, so the truth contained therein harkens back to before we even had eyes! Again, this is not some sort of new-age BS, but is, in fact, mathematical reality. No more for now, but in the meantime check out Wikipedia's entry on the "Boy or Girl paradox" for some further clues.

 

With relief, with humiliation, with terror, he understood that he too was a mere appearance, dreamt by another. - Jorge Luis Borges, The Circular Ruins

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9/11: Through the Looking Glass...

 



IronEye wrote:
"It speaks to an old stigma that humanity fell prey to & that most have all but forgotten of."

"Fell prey to" is the real key here don't you know...  


IronEye wrote:
"This is to say that the symbol of 9/11 (or 11/9) gives evidence to the fact that 99.99999% of our "civilization" operates under a great deception. "

 

Yes, included those that deceive using magic! (But they don't get to find this out UNTIL the end of the Master Cycle.)


IronEye wrote:

"To unlock the mystery of it is to "de-stigmatize" the initiate so ancient memories will begin to return & ***they'll see how they'd been deceived all this time.***

Yep. And again, this goes for the deceivers as well!


IronEye wrote:
This is something that could more aptly be called "wisdom" than "intelligence."

I forget who said the following: "It isn’t knowledge that gives wisdom. Rather it is the experiencing of that knowledge that leads to wisdom."   

 

In the Greater Scheme of things all there is are lessons. Creation is one "giant" cosmic school (with bullies and all...) whose sole existence is to furnish these lessons for all.

Interestingly, those that mass murder IN the physical realm - which in Truth is *illusory in nature* (BUT very real within said framework/context) get to be killed/destroyed (their consciousness turned into primordial matter/annihilated that is) in the Real "world."

The "Real world" actually existing OUTSIDE this illusory physical realm. (Which we think is real, as this is one of our many "root assumptions" when incarnating .) 

In a very real sense these folks that caried out/planned/financed 9/11 - their "Great Work" - signed a crooked deal with the biggest crook of them all: the so-called  "devil," the Entropic force/destroyer. Ha! 

As by Universal Law (which is immutable) these folks will have to face their own deceit and evil deeds. As this Law (basically, "what goes around comes around") will "mirror back" to them what they have done to others

Indeed. They have literally gambled (and lost... but don't know it yet) their consciousness/psyche to the "devil"!!

See:
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"The noblest pleasure is the joy of understanding."  - Leonardo Da Vinci

 "Much learning does not teach Understanding, or else it could have been taught by the great teachers"
- Heraclitus


 

Thanks

Will look further into what you are signposting. I can appreciate that your thinking goes deeper than "numerological mumbo-jumbo".

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LXIV

"When I have seen by Time's fell hand defaced
The rich-proud cost of outworn buried age;
When sometime lofty towers I see down-razed,
And brass eternal slave to mortal rage;
When I have seen the hungry ocean gain
Advantage on the kingdom of the shore,
And the firm soil win of the watery main,
Increasing store with loss and loss with store;
When I have seen such interchange of state,
Or state itself confounded to decay;
Ruin hath taught me thus to ruminate,
That Time will come and take my love away.
This thought is as a death, which cannot choose
But weep to have that which it fears to lose."

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." HERBERT<

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el eve n

we assume time runs in a direction that appears to be the same time we are speaking of as history, as in "recorded time" linear, an arrow pointing forward, however we can see that all of history as we do or don't know it, is a cycle, cycle of a heavenly occurrence, that is mirrored in nature.What goes around comes around, is not just street lingo.The enormity of the heavenly bodies, and the shear possibility of cosmic cataclysm figures in to ancient systems of the movement of the configurations.As the portion of this cycle draws to its closure, Karma is speeding up, as RAW would say.

So our perceptions are subject to alterations and shifts.As this is speeding up so do our perception of it, depending on where you step into the Hopi river, or the flux of Heraclitus, as more sightings of other phenomenon appear on the zero-point horizon, so too do the masses receive the waves of transformation.I don't know who said "let the dead bury the dead" i had a "hippie" artist friend that wanted to start a commune back in 69 write that to me in a letter once.At the time i saw it as a reality of society, i saw it in my own life , my family, people that i heard on TV, and this was before the first Zombie movie,this friend wanted to live in a commune with others, to do art and play music and be close to nature, i often wonder what my life would have been like if i had followed him to some place in New Mexico.

What does this have to do with 9/11? what does my birthday have to do with it? I don't know, but, i know i have seen things i can't explain, experienced things that i can't just shrug off.My first thought when i heard the plane the plane the plane hit the WTC was, oh they did it, and i flashed on the Kennedy assassination, the plane going into the building was like the bullet going into Kennedy's head.I instantly saw the same image, just as i saw the bullets hit Chilean president Allende's body in the presidential palace 9/11/73, and i think i heard Pablo Neruda's heart break

As i had been reading 'Residence on Earth' poems by Neruda for years, and had that poet psychic connection.Like vibrations that pass around the world

Also i don't seem to be able to make paragraphs suddenly, by just hitting return? hmmm, now it does it?

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Time=Energy (Art)

In 2000- the stargates actually did open and will remain open until 2017. Mass influx of E.T.s. and interdimensional energy. Jose Arguelles' "Time and the Technosphere" was written about the synchronicity of the world trade towers (as a hub of western capitalism) being destroyed as the welcoming of the new paradigm as linear time ends and love begins outside of the dictates of a greedy and consumerist society of which the twin towers were like giant mascots. It was like a wake up call to all those who could smell the coffee and didn't get too sentimental or patriotic about the whole thing. The Sirians helped build Egypt. Time=Energy factored by Art. Ovarian Out, joan o' (f)Art

portal

have you seen the Ninja Turtles movie? the newer one? the synchronicity with that movie is nuts...it's NY, and the main building is exactly like the Freedom Tower was originally designed, and there's a stargate at the top of it, and all these reptilians and otherworldly characters use it as a gateway to run amok on earth...

wanderlust

 

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well, i was reading books about Egyptain things

in the early 70's, i was drawn to it, like a magnet.I imagined myself in a past life in Egypt, or several.In 73, i underwent a psychic break, i was going on for 72-73, one day i was really going through the changes, i was hurting, because i had not slept for days, weeks, it just seemed like i was going to these other astral places,and on that day, i was sitting in a big stuffed chair next to the window in the Victorian house i was renting a tiny room in.I suddenly felt a light enter my body, and all the pain seemed to melt away, and i felt like my consciousness was now replaced with that of an Egyptian Pharoah, i can't begin to explain why i thought that, except that it was like i saw infinite worlds and saw it in all directions, as if i was sitting on some chair in a great kingdom hall, i was simply flooded with this consciousness, like it just came through the window.This condition lasted for maybe an hour, as i just sat there, and people in the house seemed to vanish.Years later i played Sol in the Rites of Eleusis(first batch), it was like i had seen down the time lines that i would play Sol.I had the same kind of experience with infinite solar light passing through me the window. What i got from this, was seeing openings of passages, seeing shifts on some level, and being some kind of witness.Then it was back to dealing with the politics of the scene, and finally walking away from that, that part of it was now done, and it was back to poetry and the street corner universe.
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Where is my old worm?

Where is my "snake", my 'asp'?

So you underwent a profusion of influxes of consciousness. Consciousness flowing in from all directions. It has made you accomodative of all human experience. It has made you compassionate and "wise". Even the experiences of 'alien' beings is possible, for you, to understand. That is quite an accomplishment. That is quite a state to possess.

But what is valuable about you, to me, is your continuing and constant delineation of your first-hand experiences. Maybe you are an ignorant monkey at bottom line. But because you tell the story of your life/lives, I am enriched. You are a strange bug. Or should I say, 'bugs'? because I know no such thing as one alone?

You(s) spool out threads of poetic thought and intermingle remininces of life-on-earth and even drag us down to life-on-earth like it was the most important thing ever to be known. Yeah. I like that. Kinda.

Mystery that you are, you are not so obscure as to be a mystery to me: you are an inigma wrap'd in a taco-shell, slaved with salsa and good old Italian cheese.

What do we call that? Parmesan?

"Deh non m'averi, a vil ch'io non son povero; Povero quel die assai cose desidera."

Translation: Despise me not, for I am not poor. Poor is that one alone who has material desires.

You are strange to me. Therefore you are interesting. Not just because you are strange, but because you are honest and possess a kindness, which I value.

People despise most things alien or outside their culture. Most of these things are actually petty and even very petty. We despise trends towards self-destruction . . . something we can sense. "mountains cast shadows" as the earth moves.

We are not "bigots" for avoiding such. It is when we avoid "strangeness" because it is not in our comfortable language. Our everyday use. It is the mark of intelligence when we put forth our tendrils, when we investigate with open minds these strange things. Then, if we find goodness therein, we are comfortable to bring such "home".

But what a pup you are! Mongrel though you are. What a clever disquise. You cover yourself well. You are fully clothed in subterfuge and mystery. Entertaining and enlightening at once. Clown and king. An odd bird. That's what you are.

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"I once saw a Griffin, but no one believed my report"

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i don't know if you are talking to me

or the beings that have walked through my skull,heck i'm just a messed up teenager living in a going on 58 year old that feels like an ancient.I'm sitting in a cherry red car pulled off the road with a 16 year old girl and i am looking into her trusting sweet eyes, and,.....i see myself standing on a landing, like a gigantic pyramid with a railing like a balcony, the pyramid was so huge i could not see the ground below, i was looking out over a sea of lights of all colors and colors that i never saw before in the vast whirling distance, i was seeing the beginning and ending of golden times, all times going around to this crowning moment, the leaf like wave of rising peak of the mountain like structure and the energy vibrating railing i'm holding onto, and the infinite sea of lights that rise and fall into a veil of absolute sky that is rippling across infinity, we stand there that pillar of light plunging up and down through the hall behind us, the great hall of immortals is behind us, we gaze out at the black ocean of consciousness, as if into a mirror that reflects the galactic magesty.WE wave at the stargates dancing along a great line level with our view straight out, our headresses folding around us like angel wings waving slightly in the stellar breeze.
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Synchronicities

Synchronicities can be a very personal thing or sometimes a generalized thing. I can follow his links but some of it doesn't ring as loudly for me as it does for him. I will say that I have seen some videos that point out very unusual links between some of the media out there and the things that are happening in our world today or have happened recently. I think on YouTube he goes by the name "Pyschonaut", he does some interesting videos...

steve willner

great videos, for sure

yes! www.labyrinthofthepsychonaut.blogspot.com

wanderlust

 

 

 

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I was and am and always, only, talking to myself

I'm surprised and a little disapointed no one had anything to say about the poetry yet. And eventually this series of expressions will be archived, and I will think: darn it all.

I will access other resources, and find that someone commented on it elsewhere. And I will think: "Baader-Meinhof phenomena"? Is that really a real thing?

Surprised that the wiki on "synchromysticism" didn't mention this. But what about that sonnet? I intentionally left it unattributed, and perhaps some think the poster wrote it. So, perhaps, it was skimmed past. But it was written some 400-odd years ago.

Scholars do not know who wrote it and them. Some believe they know who wrote it and them. I don't think they do.

We can know for a fact it was and they were written long ago. Long before the tragic day and days it and they spoke of . . . or is it 'speak of'? I suppose it depends on if anyone is attending. If anyone is listening. Or is it, only, 'listened' once, but not any more. Too sad, if so, to believe.

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." HERBER

poetry

Hi Roger,

I always enjoy reading all your posts but sometimes I don't respond to them because you can be a mite tetchy.

That 'Baader-Meinhof phenomena' phrase you used.What does that mean? I have always been interested in that group and it is rare that they are mentioned these days,lost to history.

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ah sonnets

my knowledge of the great poets of the other ages is sparce, but i have read my share of it, the last great poet of reason was Alexander Pope, he was friends with Jonathan Swift, whom it seems might have seen extraterrestrials, as a close reading of Gulliver's Travels reveals some strange scenes indeed.And yes, poetry seems to span centuries and or skip them, what we see is a strange object in the writing that dances and plays loose with our senses, until we have closure; a kind of break though to another level, and the circle turns again(widening gyre), until the poem becomes the object.Pope was great at casting lesser poets into tatters, his wit was so sharp that it became an art to write circles around the flowery supercilious bandiers of the king's verse.
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I grok that

Yeah, me too, I grok that about poetry. It is, after all, about human experience, and pattern and even specifics of A time can resonate with another time or circumstance. Only, this Sonnet, number 64, attributed to Shakespeare, seems to not only refer to the towers, but to the melting of the ice-caps, the loss of land by storm, and the appearance of new land. Much more. As we see the Constitution eroded "Or state itself confounded to decay" . . . and more. Much more, in so few words.

Where others prefer to see mere temporal politic and romance . . . mundanity . . . of that time, in the Sonnets, I believe it possible to discern an intentionally scripted process of internal communion and vision. I dare to say they are akin to those mystic visions of David in his Psalms. In fact there mutual resonance is so deep in places, we might even presume the Psalmistic pattern was used in their construction . . . . or perhaps more fabulous . . . written in the same state . . . or even same person. And much of both devolve upon the issue of overcoming death. And both seem to speak to future times.

The term "Baader-Meinhof" came up somewhere on the site "Damninteresting.com" and I followed the link back to an older article you can find here:

http://www.damninteresting.com/?p=417

I won't try to define it here, Allan Bellows article about it does a good job limning it. So I'll only quote the first paragraph:

"You may have heard about Baader-Meinhof Phenomenon before. In fact, you probably learned about it for the first time very recently. If not, then you just might hear about it again very soon. Baader-Meinhof is the phenomenon where one happens upon some obscure piece of information - - - often an unfamiliar word or name - - - and soon afterwards encounters the same subject again, often repeatedly. Anytime the phrase "That's so weird, I just heard about that the other day" would be appropriate, the utterer is hip-deep in Baader-Meinhof."

I was looking for something else when I found it, so that is truly only serindipity. Not a a co-incidence. If the article doesn't come up immediately, be patient, the site is rather slow. Anyone can subscribe to place posts just like here.

He also speculates on how the term came to be applied to this phenomenon, which isn't because of what one would think.

There is a lot to say about this, but it can wait for another post. And, I promise won't be "tetchy". Great vernacular spelling there. I've only rarely seen that expression used by hill people and mountain men! Good one! I love that.

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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." HERBERT<

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the badder your Badder-Meinhof

the better from the poetic perspective.I think serious poets always see the rising and falling of things.It's something in the language itself, so, the badder the better.I would have a Badder-Meinhof planted in each poem the better to give it that origami unicorn effect, i call it.A poet that i had the fortune to see him read several times, and to sit in on his university classes some times, and went to visit once near the closure of his life, whose name was William Everson, his mentor was Robertson Jeffers, who was a pantheist that bilt his own house called Tor house, his poems reflected this rising and falling of nature and he saw how science would bring terrible things along with it, as far as nature was concerned.William never personaly met Jeffers, but he wrote about him and was influenced by him.I remember reading some writing about his thoughts on how Jeffers influenced him, and i felt a deep connection to that for some reason, even though William Everson's style is so much different from mine, i did feel the pull of his mind and writing, maybe because he called himself a regionalist poet, and i was living in his region.The last time i saw him, was in his Cabin off Last Chance road above Davenport Calif.That last chance is a kind of Badder-Meinhof to my poetic view.
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This threads Topic

The Twin Trade Towers + The Pentagon & synchronized consciousness/reality. Hello everyone... Seeing as how i'm new here i'll be trying not to fall into an argument straight away.....though..i hope i'm not stepping on anyones toes too hard here> i feel it right to say that the "synchromistake" guy in the film almost made me want to weep...or hurlup...whatever.. Synchronize your watches ladies & gents. Synchronized & synchromeshed events come in large multiples daily for me, & to my conscious awareness have have done so for over twentyone years.....& i haven't stoodstill in learning from the 'flow' of events, communica & realizations since. Strange things did happen to me prior to that point in time, & while bearing those in mind from time to time... & maybe feeling or even reasoning that i could be 'reading too far into things' most of those things didn't seem to be impacting on my reality all that much so i just considered them as interestingly strange anomalies, 1987's events changed that dramaticaly. Anyway.......skipping to the reason i'm posting this here. My youngest son asked me, "do you think we can get the old desktop Pentium fitted out with all the stuff needed to get it up & running once again, so that you, me, & my schoolfriend Andrew can have a three way highspeed l.a.n game of Descent3...sometime soon?" I suppose i must have replied 'yes' because over the next month & a half or so i sorted it out & got everthing linked up & working, ready to go. Oddly, or not so 'oddly' in my reality, my son Dan arrived home with Andrew just a short while after i'd finished all the neccessery to achieve this, & i'd just loaded up the game onto the three linked computers, the old flat desktop Pentium on the floor & the two almost matched Athlon towers side by side some way over to the left of it. It was soon abundantly clear that Andrew didn't have a hope of competence with the game 'Descent3'.......so we loaded up 'his' favorite game 'F22 Lightning'. So again jumping ahead in time....all three of us experiencing more or less the same thing...picking up one or both of the other players on our coded radars..getting a 'lock on' & firing off our missiles....pokerfaced..smiling inside that "i've' got him/them now" & waiting for the other player/players to explode. Though of course ......as one person got a 'lock' on another, so another got a lock on the person.....Kabooom & Kabooom & Kabooom...hopes dashed. Daniel was the first to realize & secretly implement the only way of not loosing a point from having his plane explode & crash...it took me & Andrew a while longer to realize this & do the same...getting a lock on, firing off all the missiles then crash diving into the ground, thereby avoiding loosing a point from being exploded by anyother player. Just as Andrew, the third to have clicked-on to this, crashed dived himself, the phone rang. It was Andrews mother, in almost a state of panic, "turn on the TV quickly, the Twin Trade Towers, a plane has just flown straight into one of them". I turn the TV on.....it comes into focus & it's 'live' coverage, as a plane hits the 'other tower', we watch, soon after someother report interupts, "the Pentagon has been hit by a third plane". Daniel has grown up seeing thousands of events happening that are linked in some 'coincidental' sense to what goes on around us.....so for him it was easy to see the interconnectedness of the events at hand........but surprisingly it was also obvious to Andrew......we looked at eachother 'knowingly'...... .....Instant pacification/liberation from what could have been a real mindbender...for anyone not so privileged as to have seen for theirselves that the events of that day & all surounding... had so obviously been preprogrammed, ready & waiting especially for 'all' witnessers to apprehend for themselves... & '''synchronisticaly timed''' to the events at hand & at home......precisely timed,...with analogous 'buildings',symbolic references, metaphoric meanings & software suicides, with American planes, computers & game. ~Betwin Those Sidebysides~
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Jake Kotze.....sorry

On reflection .....my comments above regarding Jake Kotze, i shouldn't have made, i retract them....he's just a kid, everyone has to start the learning process some point. ~Beyond The Seeming~