Half Past Human
Troy Jones
"Well, probably a very good time to go lash down everything moveable, and really examine your surroundings for what could shake loose..."
So started the rare between-reports email from Cliff, head "time monk" at Half Past Human, indicating the increased likelihood of a major earthquake that Saturday night. Being new to the world of "predictive linguistics," I made a mental note to keep an eye on the news that weekend, but didn't think much more of it.
Until I got in the car Monday morning and heard the reports about an 8.0 earthquake that had hit the Sichuan province in China overnight.
They may have missed the mark on a few details, but they sure got the big one right. And a few little ones, too, including predictions of media coverage around a "wedding interrupted." This made more sense when AP images started to show up on outlets like CNN and the BBC showing a bride and groom surrounded by rubble after the quake hit in the middle of their ceremony.
From there forward, I started paying more attention.
Early Beginnings
The solo project began back in 1997, as an attempt to make a little money by predicting stock price movements via speed-reading the Internet looking for certain terms. While collecting pieces of information that referenced Sun Microsystems in an effort to find patterns of people buying or selling, Cliff also detected patterns that made no sense. Beyond the financial analysis, Cliff also noticed a lot of language from gardening forums, ocean navigating forums, mountain climbers, etc. talking about the sun in the sky seeming "whiter." Being an avid bicycler, he'd also made this observation himself. "I realized that if these people were emotionally concerned about this, and it was rising to levels so much more ‘hot' than the language around money, then there might be something here."
Here's the basic idea: just like a rock thrown in pond makes ripples in all directions, events in time cause ripples both forward and backwards. Some people are more inclined to perceive those backwards ripples than others, and now that the Internet provides a tool to actually see what a huge number of people are thinking about like never before, there is a potential medium to tap into those ripples and make predictions.
As Cliff puts it, "Basically, the computer part doesn't matter. Humans are psychic -- they just may not know they're psychic. But even those who don't know they're psychic ‘leak out' information. We go and gather up the information that leaks out in their correspondence with Aunt Maggie and analyze it for patterns. We are more privy to the media hysteria after the event than to the event itself." Although he's also quick to note that they only pull from public information sources, and aren't reading people's email.
The Lexicon
Unfortunately, the real world is more like dumping a truckload of gravel into the pond all at once. Each stone makes its own set of ripples, with these waves within waves all interacting with each other and generally making a jumbled mess. The art of radical linguistics is in sorting through the mess to find coherent patterns, and keeping track of whether the emotional tension around those patterns is building or releasing over time.
The technology is comprised of a database of roughly 750,000 words and phrases in various languages and alphabets. Each word is linked to a matrix of values that define the word as it relates to different qualities such as intensity, duration, and emotional direction. For example, the phrase "to jack" might rank a higher value for intensity than "to steal" -unless it's constrained within the context of a flat tire, and those constraints are tracked too. And a word like "anger" might have a shorter duration value than a word like "grudge."
"Clear as Sirius on a foggy night?" as the time monks might say. Well, this is only the beginning of the complex analysis.
This entire dictionary is then broken down into groups of increasingly finer granularity. At the top are large entities like "GlobalPopulace" and "Terra." GlobalPop does not include the U.S. populace, a split necessary due to such strong anti-Bush sentiments in the global media post-2001 that the analysis would otherwise be skewed. Terra keeps track of all biosphere-related concepts. Others big buckets include "ThePowersThatBe," "Markets," and my personal favorite, "SpaceGoatFarts." Here we find references to "unknown forces of all kinds from space which are terra/populace affecting."
Out of this entire master lexicon, the time monks hand-select roughly 30 to 40 thousand words and phrases that seem to have the most current predictive value for the future. This list gets tuned between data-gathering runs to better reflect what concepts grew in strength, or started to drop off, in the previous analysis.
"Spiders" then crawl the web searching for those words, much in the same way Google goes about indexing the internet. When a word is found, the spiders grab a chunk of the surrounding text, and copy it into the database, and reduce it down to a set of numbers linking back to the words in the main, larger lexicon.
After roughly three weeks of data gathering, the analysis can begin. The system creates scatter plots of the found words, the "modelspace" of the system, using the structured lexicon and linked emotive values as a guide. Each word represents a single pixel, with color and shading changing depending on whether you're looking at the "duration" layer, the "emotional direction" layer, etc.
This is where the human part of Half Past Human really goes to work. By drilling down through the various layers and searching for shifts in language usage, such as new concepts appearing, existing ones growing stronger, or older concepts suddenly disappearing, they can begin forecast changes in the real world.
Explains Cliff, "In a way this is similar to how astronomers find new thingies in space by rapidly shifting the view of various snapshots of the same spot of space. In both instances, movement, or change is being sought in the minutia of the flickering images. We probably have it easier than the astronomer fellows."
Occasionally, "meta data layers" also appear in the analysis. These are similar concepts that start to appear across all of the entities, pointing toward key things to really keep an eye on. Current meta data trends include restrictions on movement, encounters with scarcity, duality, and resistance/rebellion/revolution.
Subscriber Reports
From the analysis of each data run, the time monks generate a series of six to eight weekly reports that summarize the appearing trends for subscribers. The reports start with near-term predictions and then progress further out in time as the team drills down through the various layers of data.
The reports are offered on a per-run basis, with new subscriptions costing $280 USD. Subscribers can then renew for later runs at $70 USD. The price points, in part, are intentionally chosen so that people who don't have money to lose don't "gamble" their limited resources on a self-described crackpot prophesy. Also, were the audience to grow too large, the likelihood of the reports appearing on the Internet intact increases. And with that comes the increased chance of the snake swallowing its own tail, as the search spiders find their own reports referencing back to their own dictionaries, which results in corruption of the data. (This actually happened with their first attempt to go public with a prediction.) So, the first rule of Half Past Human is: don't talk about Half Past Human.
The small size of the subscriber base (in the low hundreds) is also reflective of their marketing techniques. Their site states, "Most humans will wisely refrain from subscribing to an ALTA (Asymmetric Language Trend Analysis) series." Returning subscribers are thanked for their support, but cautioned that, "really, you should probably seek counseling now."
Hits and Misses
The group readily acknowledges that predictive linguistics is a fledgling field, and the reports themselves frequently summarize propositions with, "Then again, we're probably wrong." If their past track record at latching on to large events ahead of time is any indication, though, the data may be pointing to some interesting times in front of us, particularly as we approach summer 2009, which they've taken to labeling the "summer of hell" already.
And that track record does indeed include some pretty uncanny results. Their first public report came in July of 2001. Cliff approached George Ure of the site Urban Survival because he believed his analysis had crossed a tipping point for a world-changing event within the next 90 days. George primarily covers the world from a financial perspective, and Cliff was seeing a coming event focused around currency markets, the military, and an accident. Concerned about the possible impact, but also concerned for his own privacy, Cliff funneled his rough predictions to the world through George.
Being new to the process, HPH's focus on a mid-July timeframe for the event initially seemed to be a failure; until about six weeks later when the twin towers toppled to the ground in New York. "I instantly went into a state of denial," says Cliff. "I'll never forget the words when George called and said ‘Is this it? Is this the hit you've been waiting for?'"
Following that fated prediction, their timing and descriptive clues began to improve. They saw "an attack on house or assembly" before the anthrax attacks later in 2001; predicted an "attack on a commemorative event" prior to the American 587 crash on Veterans Day; and correctly identified aspects of the D.C. sniper case in 2002.
It's still difficult to make clear descriptions of events when you've reduced whole areas of complex human language down to a series of dots on a screen. In January 2003, the analysis kept coming back with a "maritime disaster over the West." This seemed cryptic, until the Columbia Space Shuttle disaster happened weeks later. Evidently the word "ship" as a pivot point could track sideways to "maritime" rather than "spaceship" as the data analysis plays Plinko with the dictionary.
Later, in July 2003, they had references to an "energy plant" associated with a "vertical wall" near an area where "rivers congregate." They were specifically searching for terrorist targets at the time, and found language around "dead man switches" and "switches/changes," that through "step by step" actions would leave people "blindly deluded" with a "fear of the dark" and feeling "tricked" and "exhausted."
Again, while it's easy to see in retrospect, it would be hard to predict from there that a series of cascading power failures would overload the Niagara power grid and result in the largest blackout in North American history. Still, just being able to accurately say that "something" big is going to happen around a certain time is pretty impressive for a garage-built time machine with no real funding.
Fine Tuning
Items coming out of the "SpaceGoatFarts" entity are particularly challenging, as these are things which we may well have no language for yet. This makes using the Internet as a tool to determine what the Universe is sending our way a difficult proposition at times.
The chief time monk explains, "The limitations of language surface, as it is probably impossible to use words bound by time to describe what is on the other side of the time horizon. Kind of like a Zen koan intended to shock the rational/monkey mind out of the way so enlightenment can express itself. So, says the rishi to the student, what color is not seen? What sensation is not felt? What sound is not heard? What time is on the other side of human?"
Recent smaller predictions are playing out well, though, indicating that their interpretation skills may be getting more detailed over time. As an example, they predicted a "uniting female personality" who would "emerge from the highlands of South/Central America" just as Ingrid Betencort was released from the jungles of Columbia. Ingrid, who has dual French and Columbian citizenship, went on a media blitz afterwards encouraging people to "bless their enemies."
I've also had "Turmoil in Pakistan?" written on my calendar on August 17 for a couple months now, based on their predictions, missing President Pervez Musharraf's resignation under threat of impeachment, and resultant unraveling of political coalitions there, by only a day.
When these positive hits appear, they're able to use them to fine-tune the engine by more closely matching the predictive language with the language used in actual media coverage of the corresponding event. "Following Ingrid Betencort's release, we got a ton of stuff around her and France, so now I've got a much better emotional base for the French," says Cliff. "It looks like I've got to add about 4,000 French verbs to the system, but we now have a much better idea of what constitutes ‘immediacy' and so on."
As always, though, timing remains a big challenge. In particular, how do you distinguish between a small event happening soon from a large event happening further out? Still, when asked how accurate the system is overall, "I believe we're better than what science calls ‘chance' by at least a factor of two," is Cliff's summation. "We get three to four big hits a year. Mostly we're wrong. Occasionally we're correct. But when we're correct, we're spectacularly so."
Challenges Ahead
As a precursor to their overall label of "Transformation" for the year 2009,the linguistics are currently predicting a period of significant "release language" beginning around October 7, 2008. In their analysis, some words such as "frustration" are associated with building tension. Contrast this with words like "rage" that are associated with the release of tension.
Says Cliff, "The shift into emotional tension release language in October will be the first manifestations of some very large changes in the planetary social order. The limitations of language come into play here, as 'large' just does not cover the real nature of the changes. Monumental means that after the fact, in future generations, 'monuments' will be built to this time. And that may be the case, but for those of us living it, 'monumental' is just not the proper adjective to apply to these coming months/years from October of 2008 through December of 2012."
Life as a time monk is challenging at times when the full weight of what's appearing in the predictions comes into clearer focus-a focus they alone may have. Says Cliff, "It can be extremely depressing. If I had children, I don't know if I'd have the intestinal fortitude to read my own crap. But now and then I get feedback like 'Because I read your crap, my eight-year-old daughter is alive because we knew the floods were coming.' So, there's some small compensation for it."
Pie helps, too. The monks are firm believers that all reports should only be read following a nap, and with a big piece of pie. Cliff suggests marionberry or peach depending on the season, but ultimately the best kind comes down to an individual choice. I can personally attest to these benefits, and regardless of whatever does or doesn't occur in the future, I am thankful to them for reintroducing pie into my life.
With many acts of transcendence, there's often a level of personal discomfort preceding a later phase of advanced awareness. Perhaps what the time monks at Half Past Human have detected is the beginning of our collective purge as we work towards a new level of global enlightenment in the coming years. Bring on the locally-grown, organic blackberry pie.
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Interesting
Doubt
Interesting, but warnings not talk about this organisation for fear of ‘feedback’ seem limited given that posting this here is bound to promote all kinds of discussion.
For instance I googled ‘Half past human;’ where upon I stumbled upon Urban survival. Needless to say, given their apparent prediction of some major ‘gore’ happening around October, I was slightly perturbed.
The fact the victim numbers run into the millions only adds more to my good old urban anxiety. Living in inner London inspires little confidence these days…..not least because I can’t get to the bar for all the City workers drinking themselves silly.
Anyway I read somewhere that things will turn inside out at around this time – but I generally take that to mean lies will be passed of as truth.
Should I not discuss it?
RE: Doubt
To clarify, the "don't talk about" comment was somewhat tongue-in-cheek. Please, discuss away.
The issue isn't problems around general discussion of the concepts, but the potential downside of the exact language and key words from their reports appearing wholesale and intact online. In that format, the circular references they'd pick up start leading down a path where their data becomes corrupt.
Upgraded crystalballs and tealeaves?
Isn't new-age commercialism wonderful in all it's glory?The next logical step after marketing tachyon-enhanced skincreams.
Just what we need, another surveillance mechanism, reducing us to even more predictable robots.
And running_darkly, you're wellcome to my share of conformism, I don't need it so much just now.
Fascinating!
Great post! I love the idea of a Time Monk.
I think it's important work to analyze trending topics that appear across the internet in similar patterns. I've been thinking a lot about synchromysticism lately (after reading this post here on RS http://www.realitysandwich.com/9/11_synchronicities and Jake Kotze's blog http://rundonotwalk.blogspot.com/). Given that synchronicity is the experience of two or more events which are causally unrelated occurring together in a meaningful manner, the gathering of the data in this project can reveal an even greater number of synchronicities that aren't experienced but are there in the patterns of data that underlie our reality. Could be a whole new way of thinking about that which "happens" from within the field of possibilities of that which also "happens" but never appears.
I just wonder what role context has in some of the analysis. For instance, if a certain trend/topic emerges, doesn't it have a different resonance if it's a topic emerging from peoples' dreams then if it's something appearing on TV or in sports chat rooms? I think the need to ascertain and tag things according to context could further help improve the accuracy of this work.
All of the answers to all of our questions is always already out there--it's merely a matter of asking the most accurate questions possible.
Thanks again.
peace,
jp
http://twitter.com/true
RE: Fascinating!
Thanks for the comments, Jennifer.
On the subject of context, they do try to account for that to the degree they can. When they find a match to one of their keywords online, they grab the surrounding block of text for it as well, and attempt to weight the results accordingly based on that. In addition to some of the data "layers" I discussed, like intensity and duration, there's a constraints layer, an associations layer, and layers for originating links and terminating links that they track.
So, good observation! That definitely plays a big role in their analysis.
I also think the key is that they're largely picking up the thoughts and feelings of individuals regarding events well before they make it into the mainstream media. In that sense, any "precognition" that people may be having about events is less tainted by simply repeating something they've heard elsewhere like TV, because those events haven't really reach a high level of visibility yet elsewhere.
October 7
Troy, thanks for explaining the HPH bots in layman's terms. I think I kinda understood before, but your article helped clarify quite a bit.
One thing I still don't quite get is how they determine the tipping point dates - such as the upcoming October 7. Can you explain?
RE: October 7th
Glad it helped - it's a tricky concept to get your head around, and I worked on the article as much as a way to force myself to understand it as to help others. ;-)
I've struggled with the timing concept as well. My sense is that their timing clues come as much from the years they've spent doing analysis as they do from the actual data. Over time, if you see a pattern build in a particular way, and then see it manifest in the "real" world at a certain time, you can use that as a guide to assume that another similar pattern might appear during a similar interval.
The language itself also provides clues. Like the example of the difference in the "duration value" between the words anger and grudge, the specific words that appear can provide some indications around timing.
The scale of the event helps them, too. Larger events and trends appear in the data much further out than smaller ones.
All of those things combined help them make guesses. Cliff has said that the timing clues are one of the biggest challenges. I didn't get too much deeper into that portion of the process, as to some degree it is one of their "trade secrets". :-)
3rd Infantry's 1st Brigade Combat Team to redeploy in US 10/1/08
More grist for speculation about an October "event"?
Gives one pause for thought. Why do they need combat forces stationed domestically when the US military is over-extended overseas fighting two wars?
According to the linked article, during its stateside tour the the 1st BCT "may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."
Who knew the October event already has its own acronym?
nonlethal tech...
Yikes... this brigade will be stationed 4 hours from my apartment.
This quote is noteworthy in this article:
The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.
“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”
In an article about a year ago, I looked into some of the cutting-edge nonlethal weaponry the military is itching to put into domestic use, including a horrific "heat-ray gun."
See also this MNBC article, where officials admit their intent to "test" this tech on US civilians...
"Newly discovered" asteroid TC3 to hit Earth 10.07.08
I must say, this is sorta freaky:
"ASTEROID 2008 TC3: A small, newly-discovered asteroid named 2008 TC3 is approaching Earth and chances are good that it will hit. Steve Chesley of JPL estimates that atmospheric entry will occur on Oct 7th at 0246 UTC over northern Sudan [ref]. Measuring only a few meters across, the space rock poses no threat to the ground, but it should create a spectacular fireball, releasing about a kiloton of energy as it disintegrates and explodes in the atmosphere. Stay tuned for updates. [ephemeris] [3D orbit]"
Synchs and thoughts...
Hi Troy,
Thanks for your contribution here – I find this work fascinating. Your article resonates strongly with me, coming quick on the heels of a short piece I posted a couple of weeks ago about the Arlington Institute's research into precognitive dreams that intuit a "substantial and disruptive" event in the next two months. I've had trepidations about this approaching period for some time now, based on research I did for another article last year about the Bush admin's amended plan for Continuity of Government, which could be kicked in to suspend elections or inauguaration.
You might also find interesting this RS feature from a month or so back, about the highly-charged Saturn-Uranus opposition that will take place precisely on election day, a "mind-boggling synchronicity." It seems everywhere I turn, another article, report, or conversation hints at this meme -- not sure whether to chalk this up as self-reinforcing collective paranoia, or a meaninful confluence of signs and synchs as a message from the universe. In light of this week's near-collapse of the global markets, it's hard not to wonder what's coming down the pike...
***
Speaking of synchs, I picked up on an interesting one in your description of future events sending ripples backwards in time; this is the precisely the image I conjured myself when recently pondering this concept.
I am struggling, however, with a seeming conflict between this concept and the popular understanding that, as co-creators of reality, we actively influence the nature of things to come. Are these notions in opposition to each other? I am curious to hear your thoughts.
Cheers,
ST
self-reinforcing collective paranoia
I'm wondering about that too. Earlier in the week (before I read Troy's piece) I had seen mention of October 7th coming up in discussion threads on Google's market tracking pages. It seems some believe around then is when the "real" crash will happen. But maybe that's coming from people being influenced by HPH's stuff.
Another interesting timing note (financial market meltdown-wise) is that the temporary ban on short selling (blamed for driving down share prices) is supposed to end October 2nd.
RE: Synchs and thoughts...
Hi ST,
Well, speaking of synchs, I came across that Arlington Institute information from another source, and actually sent it to my wife a couple weeks ago so she could submit reports around the unusually vibrant dreams she's been having lately...
On the subject of influencing our future, here's how I reconcile the potential conflict - nothing but personal speculation here. My sense is that the ability to change the course of a significant event is proportional to the number of people actively focused on that change.
The things HPH seems to be the best at picking up are those events that haven't entered into mainstream consciousness yet. As such, there isn't a significant mass of people actively working towards or against that entity, and thus the likelihood of it playing out increases. I think that's why some of their biggest "hits" have been in the areas of natural disasters, terrorist attacks, etc. Things that suddenly spring into consensus reality fully formed.
Dr. Dan Burish has some interesting takes on timeline paradoxes - I believe some of his presentations on it are available on Google Video. My provide some good food for thought...
I've seen some stories about random number generators going off the charts in terms of reporting non-random numbers recently as well - a phenomenon seen shortly before 9/11.
ripples in time
ST,
I have also envisioned and tried to wrap my head around this metaphor. Daniel quoted someone in his book referring to a similar concept: "Nothing arrives unannounced."
Why would it be conflicting that we are co-creators of reality, but that we can also feel the ripples of events that we are preparing to bring about?
I think this explains it...
Synchronicty through fractals...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuyRCfhCZT0&feature=related
Potential for a 10/7 HPH confirmation
Troy, great article on HPH.
Breaks it down to chewable bites for the less analytical.
I, too, have been following Ure's site and others for threads of confirmation of the October "event".
When I came across the TAI Alert this month (referenced by others here in the posts), more concrete was added to the structure of believability.
Then, and although there is question to the site's validity, WhatDoesItMean posted a story from Russia, titled "US To Declare October ‘Economic Emergency’, Suspend Elections".
Hmmm, another tidbit, maybe a brick for the wall of irrefutability on "10/7", so I keep listening...
And with good cause, because on 9/18, Christopher Story at WorldReports.org posts, "Fuhrer May Try To Escape Via A State Of Emergency. Economic Warfare To Be Followed By Martial Law?".
Not to say all are sound and right, but both are definitely worth the read. (Both are overseas sources and less controlled.)
Add to this the WTP lawsuit re:AIG and the FedResBank, a potfull of potential to throw a big blanket on the bailout, and what do we have?
Pieces to the puzzle, and the more we have the clearer the pic becomes.
Keep me on your alert list, and thanks for the text.
AJ
past present future
Predictive clues
Clues surround us in everyday conversation. Reality/Language yields clues to was/is/will be continuously. Personal perception as microcosm to Mass Internet Eavesdrop macrocosm. Points and waves of information. Drops and seas of data. Quanta all. Half past human. A quarter to chaos.
BULL
Best Guesses
Does anyone know if Cliff and George have done any data runs looking at 2012? It might be a cool thing to do if it is not too far out. From what I understand, they can only "see" about 6 months in front.
Anyway. I've been reading Urban Survival for a while as well as RS, Infowars and others like InformationClearingHouse.com (Which is by far one of the best news sources I have found ever). I'm looking for truth - pretty, ugly or otherwise. HPH makes perfect sense.
I just thought I'd make a prediction for the heck of it given that most folks think I'm a nutjob when I talk about anything relating to this stuff. Believe me, I'm no doomsday-er, just interestind in the world we live in for fun rather than anything else.
So here's what I think is going to happen. The reigning crooks will initiate another false flag attack (9/11 being the latest) as they are already setting the stage, http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/20081917Arch blame it on Iran and allow Isreal to go to town - http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article20785.htm http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1019989.html http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article17154.htm we just sold Isreal the bombs.
They might reason thusly: 9/11 was such a nice way to get people riled up to go into Iraq, why not another one tohave excuse hit Iran? I mean the economy is in the crapper and people are going to start catching on. We might as well have one more go at rallying them around an external enemy - otherwise we might risk rebellion.
It would give Ol' Dubya a chance to put into play all of his omnipotent executive orders he signed like "Presidential Directive 51." http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/bush_nspd51_gives_bush_dictatorial_power.htm
Simple - false flag, cancel elections, institute martial law, attack Iran via Isreal and Georgia and steal all the oil. Nevermind the Russian fighter planes playing in Venezuela.
http://en.rian.ru/russia/20080916/116834364.html
Buckle up and watch the pretty lights. Love the one you're with and keep your own house clean. I hope I am around to see the goodness return to our planet.
Fly or fall faster.
i always really felt like i was like the wily coyote
falling faster then the acme anvil
meep meep!!!
maybe the film is cracked, and this world movie will abruptly stop on the time.
...and the wizard that runs the projector, will go back to the original Dustn Hoffman's The Graduate,
but not before rewriting the life script of Wag the Dog
with a sidelong glance through Sphere down into Lenny
by way of Midnight Cowboy making a u-turn through
The Little Big Man and making a pit stop in Tootsie.
and last but not most...All the President's Men.
data runs on 2012 ....Civilization in a pickle better find your Indian Head nickle in the blue moon appearing on the Kachina mask, Life Bringer or Light Bringer its going to be a hum dinger...for sure.
Validity
Troy - great article. I have been following these fellows' work for years. They have had far more positive hits than even they know about.
Amanduh - right. Buckle up and watch the lights. Some will be flames. Some will go out. Some will go on. Let us all pray that there will be enough enlightened ones to ensure that what goes on, goes well.
Seeds, folks. Open stock, non-hybrid seeds of foods, herbs, grains and flowers (because beauty counts, too!) For a few hundred dollars, you can be the owner of a pool of genetic knowledge that has taken humanity millenia to accumulate. But only if you act soon. I'd rather have a five gallon bucket full of seeds than a solar panel. One technology is finite, and doomed to go the path of all high entropy things - the other is alive with possibilities.
And that, Amanduh, is the short answer to 2012. Get ready to grow.
Grow
and for every blade of grass there is an angel with a whip whispering grow. grow. grow.
Fly or fall faster.
suggestions on the seed bank?
Old Soldier,
I have been thinking a lot about the Native Americans in the Arizona desert, treating it as their sacred duty to preserve hardy varieties of beans and corn. I grew up near those lands, and I wonder if more if us should share that sacred duty.
I am no horticulturalist (hardly even a novice gardener as yet), but I have a feeling such pursuits are a part of my destiny. Is there a place you recommend to order "open stock" seeds? Could you share a basic list, based on region, of what seeds one should obtain to start a good bank?
If not, where should I go?
The ripples are the terrain, but we are the navigators
Thanks for this article! I've been very interested in this site and it's great to get a really lucid explanation of it.
The way I see it, Time is not a linear thing in which only one thing is happening at one "moment." Rather, there are infinite realities at any given "time". "Parallel universes" and all that. Of course, for all practicality we do experience one "timeline" most of the time...
However, what we consider to be the "future" is always also infinite. So, given our current reality, we're moving through time and there are big things ahead that attract us, but not things that will definitely happen, but just big things that could happen given our current trajectory.
Kind of like flying through space and being attracted to big objects like planets and stars, but not necessarily being drawn in.
However, most of the time people don't realize their own strength to change directions. Just because it feels like a big thing ahead, doesn't mean we can't summon the energy necessary to dodge it. Or embrace it and pass through it.
So, it's good to know the terrain, what big energies lie ahead, so that we can successfully navigate that terrain to arrive at our desired destination.
Maybe the obstacles are too big to stop and navigate all the way around given our momentum, in which case we'll just have to figure out how to best maneuver through them, over them, beneath them, whatever, in order to not be completely blown off track.
Don't really have any basis for these thoughts - just thinking...
Mathematical genius and the future
It may be time to re-read Ted Kaczynski's manifesto titled "Industrial Society and Its Future".
Kaczynski specialized in geometric function theory and may well have understood some of the events coming on us now.
The self unleashed
Metacomment
Just looking at this whole story/string of comments from another perspective, it seems to me that people are seeming more and more sure of themselves regarding their gut feelings.
This article talks about sensing the "intensity" and other emotional contexts of expressions online, ect. It is very clear, especially reading the comments on this particular article, that peoples gut instincts, premonitions, and feelings are becoming even more and more refined and clear, and realized.
Maybe it is simply because I feel these things as well, or share these same beliefs about an imminent, impending social collapse (or however you like to perceive it,) but I feel like the collective brainwaves are too strong for it to be purely psychological.
Whatever WE are feeling is not coming from our own heads... And people are realizing this more every day.
I know I am.
self-indulgent flattuelence
Seed sources
Hi, John X!
In answer to your question: I have dealt with Baker Creek Heirloom Seeds (www.rareseeds.com) and been very satisfied. They have assortments for southern and northern environments. Also lots of unique foreign heirloom seeds not normally seen on the US market.
If you live in the southeast US, I recommend looking into Southern Exposure Seeds (www.southernexposure.com) They specialize in varieties adapted to North America's south east and Appalachia. Good folks, too.
You might try Everlasting Seeds (www.everlastingseeds.com), as I know they also have vegetable and herb seed assortments packed for longer term storage.
There are regional seed companies for the Northwest and Southwest, too, I just can't recall them right now. A quick Google will uncover a lot.
For commercial lots, as well as smaller sized packages, I like Johnny's Selected Seeds (www.johnnysseeds.com) They are a New England company, so have lots of seed stock adapted for more northern climes. Also a great selection of market gardening tools and supplies. Some hybrid, but they are extremely explicit in labeling all their seeds as for origin and open pollenation. Also sell regular and USDA Certified Organic seed stock, often for the same varieties - useful if you are growing for the organic market.
These are a fraction of the folks out there - but companies I know to be reputable - for what it is worth.
And remember - the best fertilizer is a farmer's shadow!
Thanks!
Old Soldier,
Thanks for your reply. I will look into those sites. I like the idea of investing in the future in this way, and I wonder how many commuity regional seed banks are already in existence.
october surprise?
Uh Oh...
As I was looking through the headlines and linked stories found on whatdoesitmean.com I found this:
>>> September 26, 2008
US Issues Unprecedented DEFCON 1 Alert
By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Western Subscribers (Traducción al Español abajo)
Russian Military Analysts are reporting in the Kremlin today that the United States Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, has alerted his World-Wide military commands to begin preparations for the raising of America’s Defense Condition (DEFCON) “on or about” October 7th to their highest status DEFCON 1. <<<
It goes on to mention the same military posture being innitiated by Isreal.
I guess it's time to renew my membership at Costco and stock up on stuff...
It's a shame that widespread publication of HPH data would contaminate their results.
Thanks to Troy and all posters here for the heads-up.
Yes, the crop formation above DOES look like an explosion amid numerous towers when you add the shading to optically finish their outlines.
"everything means something"
In addition...
"US Homeowners Soon To Be Evicted By Chinese Police Under New Law"
whatdoesitmean.com is reporting that because the Chinese Govt. has just suspended all banking lending practices to the US, the US has given Chinese agents authority to evict american homeowners in order to assure the Chinese that their 1.4 trillion investment is safe.
Now I don't know about you, 'cause I'm new to all this fringe conspiracy propaganda shit, but this sounds way too outragious to me...
In the words of Rachael Maddow, "Can someone please talk me down from here?"
"everything means something"
'Master computers' and 'seers'
This all is reminiscent of the concept of linear programming and using sensors on air-plane frames to detect 'weaknesses' or points of potential failure.
Later, using computers to perceive world-trends and using feed-back as means to manipulate such trends. The Cray computers and the idea of a 'master computer' available to people in power, etc., etc.
Leontief wrote an article for Scientific American that outlined how such a computer model could be used to monitor, potentially, everything, and it was no stretch for the imaginative to see how manipulating various market conditions might enable the feedback to judge how best to manipulate markets and people and all.
The 'three-body problem' is reduced from something dealing with 'relativity' to practical issues like the price of sugar or petrol and various 'crises' of 'shortages' . . . even credit or 'free monies'.
Input being primarilly a problem for the 'fullness' of 'output' or predictive probity and 'viability' of anticipatory strategies.
One way to fill in the 'gaps' was to utilize the 'customer credit' or 'incentive' trackers of grocery outlets and all whenever they shopped and purchases could be tracked alongside thanks to the 'universal product code' or 'bar scanning' technology and combined with 'personality tracking' systems.
However 'anonymous' such systems actually may be (except where they mail one 'credits' to an address), they still logue the reactions of a populace against world-wide co-monitored conditions.
Hence: controlled experiment. Just too tempting not to indulge in by the geeks who work for 'the man'.
These guys discussed in this article above were on 'Coast-to-Coastam' it seems on the day after this article appeared on RS.
They'd been on C2C before. Art Bell had them on at least once, I seem to recall.
The idea that terms in the 'information stream' by frequency of use might not only be useful, as after-effects, to anticipate market fluctuations, but also some kind of 'spooky' or 'intuitive' predictors of future events is kind of interesting. I guess.
It would be much more interesting if the entire methodology was made into an open-source means of research into consciousness and human reactivity.
As it stands, however, this is only a couple of guys making money using the promise of it feeding off of people who believe they can use it to get rich. The REAL, REAL secret of their method is held very close to the breast. Maybe, even, a 'rogue' who worked with the nefarious 'master computer' guys! Though, I doubt that. But one never knows how low people can go.
The 'innards' of their process is 'proprietary' and depends mostly on the 'genius' of one of them. The other guy is the 'salesman' who is often corrected and 'shepherded' by the other guy or so-called 'inventor'.
Fine. Maybe these guys have come upon, from within the public spectrum of something that otherwise has been suspected of the military-industrial complex.
Big deal.
Not impressed. Cheap commercial for a cheap kind of cleverness that ultimately, it seems to me, can only lead people to fall into a world-mind highly susceptible to suggestion and usually reactionary and not creative.
Thus far, they can say only after the fact they 'predicted that'.
Negative to negative. Deeper and deeper into debt because what's within and contrary is so dis-valued. Which is what might be expected when some outer-program other than general information is propriatarized and hence made a matter of 'purchase'. Soon, I expect, we'll see how these people will have developed a 'program' you can 'use in your very own home' to forsee changes in your 'very own neighborhood' and so 'you too, can be prepared'. 'Send 9.95 to . . . or call 1-800-blah blah blah.' and 'if you act now! you can also get their book! FOR FREE!' etc.
Sorry. I doubt the value of this. They might earn a 'B.S.' from some school for the effort. Whether that's a 'bachelors of science' or something else, you decide.
Characters.
I think the popular response is indicative too: millions of people were exposed to these guys on C2C. Only a few have taken access to them. Most seem to feel these guys are con-artists.
Even if the idea has some depth to it. If so, it might be implemented much more potently by a bunch of geeks and nerds who aren't in it for the money, but as a real amateur project for or against the concept of 'telepathy' or 'time-irrelevent' perception. Science for science' sake. For the sake of knowing or understanding.
We'll see.
"DOLLAR DEATH"
Hi Troy,
Is this the kind of thing HPH is referring to when they talk about "dollar death"?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdsnIYurpSM
To anyone who has read Naomi Klein's "Shock Doctrine", I think we are seeing the death-blow shock to our democracy with this bailout passage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S27yitK32ds
-st
RE: "Dollar Death"
Yeah, that sounds about right. :-) I'm sure you've seen the new interview with Naomi making the rounds now, too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XgkeTanCGI
Watch Iceland if you want a preview of what currency collapse looks like - they're well on their way there now, with reports already coming in aboout people refusing to accept their currency.
here's a game I invented that might be funspirational
A show of hands...
HPH and urbansurvival certainly have got my attention
. . . oh, and this guy Reinhardt, too, with his maddeningly cryptic oracular utterances that so far have not been wrong.
Shifts are surely afoot when the only reliable sources of information these days seem to be coming from the "fringe".
What the h**l?
So, the presumption here is that the 'talk' of people is 'predictive'? And that a sifting of of this talk in some 'special algorhythm' as yet undivulged, tells what's what and what's gonna be?
And all the people talking on the internet are just 'readers' and not 'contributors'.
Talk about 'self-fulfilling prophecy'!
Any idiot can see that people unwilling to stop predatory developers and 'lendors' for greedy and selfish people must end in 'loss of faith' in things.
So what does all this get you?
What are you doing today to change 'trends'?
All this justifies what? You giving up and saying: 'end of times' 'the sky is falling!' wha wha wha.
This is creepy. Defending it is creepy.
You go do that. The rest will work and try and set example by trying to countermand this lazy kind of thinking and turning to such puny 'prophets' or proprietary 'methods of prediction'.
Like I said before: you have a method of analysis: lay it all out for free and tell all the truth of it.
Otherwise: you're just out for a buck and selling a load of blankety blank.
Just one advisory: objective observation when it comes to willing and thinking beings doesn't quite fit 'scientific method'. Since humanity is not some inert block of stone just drifting along by inertia or 'cosmic forces' or chaos. Will and choice is going on and saying 'yes' or 'no' by popular trend is just reducing will to 'null' and doing NOTHING in view of a danger is just cowardice. And going with the loudest voice in the face of danger, too, is not wisdom. Now is the time to be quiet and reflective and calm and a willingness to not go along with fear-mongering. And that is what this topic is all about as I see it. You'll get no protection from 'danger' from folk like this.
It's slimy and creepy. Not open source. Not truthful and frank or honest.
Legerdermain.
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"There is a principle which is a bar against all information, which is proof against all arguments and which cannot fail to keep a man in everlasting ignorance -- that principle is contempt prior to investigation." HERBE