The Alchemy of Trolling: Interview with Tiffany Scandal and Tara Dublin

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More women and young people than ever before will participate in what may be the election of our lifetimes (until 2020). Trolls and bots are already out in force. How do we ready ourselves so our freedom of speech can’t be intimidated?
 
The third in my series of interviews about creative people using social networking to reach an audience features two veterans of the online wars, here to share their experiences: Tiffany Scandal, editor of the feminist essay collection Nasty!, and Tara Dublin, contributing writer to Nasty! 

Nasty! is a collection of powerful proclamations and confessions, stories and essays that celebrate self acceptance and individuality while unflinchingly exposing the horrors women continue to experience. It’s an empowering read that tears the veil of civility to liberate by catharsis. It includes “Raphael and the French Ghost and the Moon” an essay by Jennifer Robin that’s also the first interview in this series. Other writers include Kim Vodicka, Jessie Lynn McMains, Missy Suicide, and Sabrina Dropkick. And 100% of the profits made from this book go to Planned Parenthood. It’s no wonder that this compilation of strong female voices has attracted trolls. 

Tara Dublin wrote about her frightening experience with trolls in “I Got Doxxed After Giving a Donald Trump Supporter the Finger. 

 
She writes:

Trump-supporting internet trolls have sent me death threats, looked me up to call me slurs like “kike,” threatened to kill or gang-bang me, suggested calling bomb threats in to my son’s school, and put photos of my children in memes promoting incest. Someone created a Twitter parody account for me and posted my home address, a photo of my house, and the phone number for my landline. They’ve sent Chinese food and pizzas to my home, signed me up for magazine subscriptions, filled out personality tests in my name for the Church of Scientology. They are trying to ruin my life any way they can.
Since Tara contributed to Nasty!, the book became another target for the trolls, to whom any reference to nasty immediately conjures Trump’s remark to Hillary Clinton and the ensuing Nasty Woman feminist movement. But the cyberbullies only brought more attention to the book. Instead of feeling intimidated, Tiffany and Tara feel even more deeply the importance of their work and the example they can provide to people who will go through similar troubles because they dare to speak out. I’m honored to interview them for Reality Sandwich.

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Tiffany Scandal managing editor of King Shot Press and editor of Nasty!

Tamra Lucid: Tiffany, what inspired you to curate this collection of stories to benefit Planned Parenthood?

Tiffany Scandal: This last election really helped reveal that our country is not as progressive as we thought it was. Seeing all the hate, shame, and ignorance really lit a fire under my feet, and while there are plenty of collections penned by female contributors, I wanted to curate one that felt sassy, brassy, in your face, and diverse AF.

Choosing Planned Parenthood as the beneficiary seemed like the obvious choice. Whenever I struggled financially and/or didn’t have medical insurance, Planned Parenthood had my back. Because decent healthcare is not a priority in this country, I know that Planned Parenthood will continue to serve the people who need help. And as a thank you for their services, I’m happy to pay forward whatever I can so that they can continue to keep as many doors open as possible. 

Tara, what inspired you to contribute your writing to Nasty!?

Tara Dublin: My friend Diana Kirk, who had already been published by King Shot Press, was the one who told me about the submissions. She was so enthusiastic about her experience with Tiffany and Michael, and she encouraged me to submit. I was so happy when I was chosen, since they were only taking a fraction of the submissions they received. And she and both made the final cut, which is really cool. 

Tiffany, it must have been intense to read the submissions you received, and it must have been difficult to choose those that made it into the book. What did you learn from reading through them all?

TS: There will never be an anthology that encompasses ALL of the various female experiences. Too many of us have had similar awful, terrifying experiences that keep getting shrugged off as normal. We still have a very long way to go to stop viewing/treating women as second-class citizens.

Tara, what does this compilation mean to you?

TD: It means SO MUCH to me, because this is the first time I’ve ever been published in an actual real book that people can buy and hold in their hands. I’ve written for plenty of websites, but this is way beyond getting a few hits for a blog. And now I’m going to get to participate in not one, but two professional readings (the first at BookShowLA on March 17th, the second at the legendary Powell’s in Portland on April 2nd), so it’s really becoming such a huge part of my life. I’ve been waiting for this for so long, and I still kind of can’t believe it’s finally happening. 

Tiffany, did you have certain criteria in mind when you chose the stories to include? How did you choose?

TS: I wanted stories that were empowering. Stories that embraced strong women who aren’t afraid to speak up, to enjoy life, to be who they are. Stories that educated. Stories that addressed sides of womanhood that don’t get talked about all that often. And much like making a mixtape, I had to think about flow, transitions, grouping stories with similar themes or tones, but not having two stories be the same. 


Tara, what theme did you want to capture in your contribution to this compilation?

TD: When I heard the theme was along the lines of “women owning their sexuality, feeling empowered by it, and never apologizing for it,” I took it as a personal writing challenge. While I’ve written extensively about how much my dating life has sucked in the last six years, I never went into specific details regarding my sex life. I mean, my mother reads everything I write, and who wants their mom knowing how they like their action? Even though I use a comedic approach in my essay, I still don’t want her knowing. I’ve told her she’s not allowed to read it, but I’m sure she will anyway. 

Tiffany, what kind of positive responses has Nasty! inspired?

TS: It makes me really happy to see people be excited about this book. It’s cool to see women read some stories and realize that they are not alone in what they went through. It’s cool to see men pick up this book and feel inspired to join the fight in making this country a safer place for women, LGBTQ, and POC. My goal is that maybe it inspires more conversations about what we can do to be better feminists, better allies, better human beings.  

Tara, you’ve written about the cyber harassment you suffered due to a viral video. How did that spill over onto Nasty!?

TD: Unfortunately, the haters on the right discovered I’m a contributor and started bombing King Shot Press and Tiffany with all kinds of awful shit. I felt bad about it at first, but they took it all in stride and slung the shit right back at them in the most glorious way. Thankfully we’re far enough along that we not only understand this behavior, we don’t let it bother us. I mean, they’re all cowards hiding behind screens, and they’re utter morons. They thought I wrote the entire book, they threatened to protest, they called us witches; they just love their manufactured outrage so much. And they also love to create a diversion from the Russia scandal and will jump on literally any chance to do so. Soon enough they get distracted by another bright and shiny thing and move on. And I’m sure by the time our readings roll around, they’ll have forgotten about us and the only people showing up will be the ones who support us.

The funniest part of this ridiculousness is that my essay has absolutely nothing to do with the election or politics at all, except for the fact that one of the hookups I describe happened the night after the election. There IS an essay about the election and how it messed the author up, but it’s by another writer. These trolls are so busy attacking, they’re too stupid to stop and pay attention to anything resembling truth. 

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Tara Dublin

Tiffany, what was it like seeing the trolls swarm around one of your authors, your book and yourself?

TS: It was kind of unreal. Fortunately, Tara is a badass and handled herself really well. These trolls basically gave us a ton of free publicity, and because they didn’t bother doing research on the book or on us, they really reenforced why this book exists, why people should buy it, and why we can’t stay quiet anymore. 


Tara, instead of retreating you faced your PTSD.  What inspired you to make your own online presence stronger despite the harassment?  

TD: Because their intention was to silence me, and fuck that. No one tells me what I can and cannot say when it comes to that fucking traitor falsely installed in our White House by a foreign government. I’m speaking out until he’s fucking gone. Once I got over my initial fear, which I’ll admit took some time, I got mad. And I got educated about them, how they use projection language and gaslighting tactics, how they converge on Dark Web sites like 4Chan to create these online campaigns around people with the intent of ruining their lives. I don’t want or need these people respecting me if they support a fucking traitor, so now I just usually mute them after shaming them. They’re not going to fuck with this lady’s livelihood anymore. 

Tiffany, what has it been like watching Tara blossom where many may have broken?

TS: I’m proud of her. I can’t imagine how exhausting it must be to go through this as often as she does, but I’m happy to know she’s out there and she’s not afraid to challenge and resist every day. 


Tara and Tiffany, what was it like being trolled by women who wanted to silence you?

TD: When that happens, I always kind of roll my eyes and shake my head, because I will never understand an actual live human woman who thinks that piece of shit rat bastard is worthy to lead or has any redeeming qualities whatsoever. Those women have been so subjugated by their men for so long, which they don’t realize, and they aren’t really thinking for themselves. It’s disappointing to see women unable to speak out with their true voices because they’re afraid of how their men will react, but that’s our society for you. So I’ll usually just quote their tweet, dismiss them as a sad Lady Trump Troll, and mute them. They’re not going to listen to me, I’m just a girl! 

TS: It’s something that blows my mind. Women who think we’re already equals, or women who romanticize an era where men were the breadwinners (but you could also buy a house for $8,000 and infidelity was something a lot of  people just turned a blind eye to). Sadly, their arguments and thinking do come from a very privileged place. Maybe they don’t know what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck, to have to support a family on their own, to work so hard and still earn less than male colleagues, etc. Maybe they think everything’s fine because that’s what they’re being told and their privilege doesn’t let them see how hard it is for other women who are not in their position? It’s strange, and as empathetic as I can be, I can’t ever fully understand a woman who will stomp on the pursuit of freedom of other women.

Tiffany, was the extra publicity positive?

TS: Totally. We made a lot of sales that day.

Tiffany, having been a social worker, and a counselor for at-risk women and LGBTQ youth, did the cyber harassment open a door into the world they face, and did your professional skills give you any tools for dealing with it in a healthy way?

TS: What we experienced is nothing new. People face this everyday. I’ve been, and have worked with people who have been, harassed constantly. Through my experience, I’ve learned to not hold on to the anger thrown in my direction, and refuse to waste my energy on anyone who isn’t willing to listen. 

Tiffany, has working on this book made you more or less optimistic about America?

TS: Both? It makes me sad that the mere concept of this book has people up in arms and yelling on rooftops about how awful it/we are. It makes me sad that empowered women are so hated, men AND women try to boycott us. BUT – I’m happy to see people speak up. I’m happy the submissions call for this anthology was so popular. I’m happy people believe in the power of this book and have been sharing it with friends, family, strangers. 

Tara and Tiffany, as election 2018 nears we can expect to see more cyber harassment online as trolls try to stop free expression of ideas. What advice do you have based on your experiences?

TD:  The most important thing to remember is that so many of those accounts are fake troll bots. When I get trolled, the first thing I do before even thinking up a reply is check their profile. The bots usually have a low follower account (though there are some that have accumulated tons of followers who are too stupid to realize they’re following a bot), their pic is almost always some stock photo or someone famous, nothing is spelled right (though this is also true of the human trolls), and often their tweets have just been copied from another account. If it’s an actual person, it depends on what the topic is and how bad they’re coming at me. I’ll determine whether or not it merits a reply, and if it does, I usually just zing them with something like “Go fuck yourself, traitor” or “Someday you may know the touch of a woman you don’t have to inflate first, but today isn’t that day” or “Why so triggered, Snowflake?” They really hate that last one, because they don’t like it when you use their words against them.

Most of the time it’s not worth the energy to engage with them, since they’re not interested in anything that remotely resembles intelligent political discourse and they thrive on the attention you’re giving them. They’re after the reaction, most of them don’t even care about the issues. They just love being terrible. So I try not to feed them. I mute them so they can just keep right on shouting into the void and I’ll never see it. It’s more satisfying than blocking, because they know they’re blocked, but they don’t know that they’re muted. I report all viable threats when they come through, and I’ve gotten plenty of accounts suspended. Sometimes my followers will take up the cause for me, and it’s fun to watch them fuck with the trolls, but I’ve lost my hard-on for that kind of thing. I’m not a shit-starter. 

TS: Can we just take a moment to giggle over the fact that these trolls, who claim to value the constitution, love to try to shame us into silence whenever we practice OUR first amendment right? Anyway, advice is don’t dwell on the negativity. Laugh whenever possible. Most of these trolls are very shy, timid people in person. But on the chance they can be a physical threat, report them immediately. 

Tara and Tiffany, what are you each working on now?

TD: Right now I’m all about spreading the word about Nasty! and hoping someone connects with my essay “Here’s to You, Mrs. Robinson” enough that they buy the rights to it. I think it would be a fun little indie film. I also have submitted a proposal for a memoir/essay collection that I’m hoping to hear back about soon. Aside from writing, my other passion is voice-over work (I was a radio DJ here in Portland for 5 years), and I’ll never give up the hope of doing a voice in an animated series or film, or a video game. 

TS: I’m currently writing and editing three of my own manuscripts, occasionally glancing over the King Shot Press future releases, and trying to keep up with a Patreon page. This month also has me incredibly busy with booking and promoting live reading events for Nasty! 

Upcoming NASTY! Events: 

March 17,  7PM, Book Show Los Angeles

March 18, Verbatim Books, San Diego

April 2,  7:30PM. Powell’s City of Books, in the Pearl. Portland

  April 13, Enjoy Co. Portland.

May 20, Browsers Book, Olympia, WA

June 6th Wooden Shoe Books, Philadelphia

June 8, Cafe Con Libros, Brooklyn, NY

June 9 Bluestockings NY, NY

June 6th Wooden Shoe Books, Philadelphia

 
 

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Ayahuasca has been known to be a powerful medicinal substance for millennia. However, until recently, it was only found in the jungle. Word of its deeply healing and cleansing properties has begun to spread across the world as many modern, Western individuals are seeking spiritual, mental, emotional, and physical well-being. More ayahuasca retreat centers are emerging in the Amazon and worldwide to meet the demand.

 

Ayahuasca Helps with Grief
A new study published in psychopharmacology found that ayahuasca helped those suffering from the loss of a loved one up to a year after treatment.

 

Ayahuasca Benefits: Clinical Improvements for Six Months
Ayahuasca benefits can last six months according to studies. Read here to learn about the clinical improvements from drinking the brew.

 

Ayahuasca Culture: Indigenous, Western, And The Future
Ayahuasca has been use for generations in the Amazon. With the rise of retreats and the brew leaving the rainforest how is ayahuasca culture changing?

 

Ayahuasca Guide: Effects, Common Uses, Safety
The Amazonian brew, Ayahuasca has a long history and wide use. Read our guide to learn all about the tea from its beginnings up to modern-day interest.

 

Ayahuasca and the Godhead: An Interview with Wahid Azal of the Fatimiya Sufi Order
Wahid Azal, a Sufi mystic of The Fatimiya Sufi Order and an Islamic scholar, talks about entheogens, Sufism, mythology, and metaphysics.

 

Ayahuasca and the Feminine: Women’s Roles, Healing, Retreats, and More
Ayahuasca is lovingly called “grandmother” or “mother” by many. Just how feminine is the brew? Read to learn all about women and ayahuasca.

What Is the Standard of Care for Ketamine Treatments?
Ketamine therapy is on the rise in light of its powerful results for treatment-resistant depression. But, what is the current standard of care for ketamine? Read to find out.

What Is Dissociation and How Does Ketamine Create It?
Dissociation can take on multiple forms. So, what is dissociation like and how does ketamine create it? Read to find out.

Having Sex on Ketamine: Getting Physical on a Dissociative
Curious about what it could feel like to have sex on a dissociate? Find out all the answers in our guide to sex on ketamine.

Special K: The Party Drug
Special K refers to Ketamine when used recreationally. Learn the trends as well as safety information around this substance.

Kitty Flipping: When Ketamine and Molly Meet
What is it, what does it feel like, and how long does it last? Read to explore the mechanics of kitty flipping.

Ketamine vs. Esketamine: 3 Important Differences Explained
Ketamine and esketamine are used to treat depression. But what’s the difference between them? Read to learn which one is right for you: ketamine vs. esketamine.

Guide to Ketamine Treatments: Understanding the New Approach
Ketamine is becoming more popular as more people are seeing its benefits. Is ketamine a fit? Read our guide for all you need to know about ketamine treatments.

Ketamine Treatment for Eating Disorders
Ketamine is becoming a promising treatment for various mental health conditions. Read to learn how individuals can use ketamine treatment for eating disorders.

Ketamine Resources, Studies, and Trusted Information
Curious to learn more about ketamine? This guide includes comprehensive ketamine resources containing books, studies and more.

Ketamine Guide: Effects, Common Uses, Safety
Our ultimate guide to ketamine has everything you need to know about this “dissociative anesthetic” and how it is being studied for depression treatment.

Ketamine for Depression: A Mental Health Breakthrough
While antidepressants work for some, many others find no relief. Read to learn about the therapeutic uses of ketamine for depression.

Ketamine for Addiction: Treatments Offering Hope
New treatments are offering hope to individuals suffering from addiction diseases. Read to learn how ketamine for addiction is providing breakthrough results.

Microdosing Ketamine & Common Dosages Explained
Microdosing, though imperceivable, is showing to have many health benefits–here is everything you want to know about microdosing ketamine.

How to Ease a Ketamine Comedown
Knowing what to expect when you come down from ketamine can help integrate the experience to gain as much value as possible.

How to Store Ketamine: Best Practices
Learn the best ways how to store ketamine, including the proper temperature and conditions to maximize how long ketamine lasts when stored.

How To Buy Ketamine: Is There Legal Ketamine Online?
Learn exactly where it’s legal to buy ketamine, and if it’s possible to purchase legal ketamine on the internet.

How Long Does Ketamine Stay in Your System?
How long does ketamine stay in your system? Are there lasting effects on your body? Read to discover the answers!

How Ketamine is Made: Everything You Need to Know
Ever wonder how to make Ketamine? Read our guide to learn everything you need to know about the procedures of how Ketamine is made.

Colorado on Ketamine: First Responders Waiver Programs
Fallout continues after Elijah McClain. Despite opposing recommendations from some city council, Colorado State Health panel recommends the continued use of ketamine by medics for those demonstrating “excited delirium” or “extreme agitation”.

Types of Ketamine: Learn the Differences & Uses for Each
Learn about the different types of ketamine and what they are used for—and what type might be right for you. Read now to find out!

Kitty Flipping: When Ketamine and Molly Meet
What is it, what does it feel like, and how long does it last? Read to explore the mechanics of kitty flipping.

MDMA & Ecstasy Guide: Effects, Common Uses, Safety
Our ultimate guide to MDMA has everything you want to know about Ecstasy from how it was developed in 1912 to why it’s being studied today.

How To Get the Most out of Taking MDMA as a Couple
Taking MDMA as a couple can lead to exciting experiences. Read here to learn how to get the most of of this love drug in your relationship.

Common MDMA Dosage & Microdosing Explained
Microdosing, though imperceivable, is showing to have many health benefits–here is everything you want to know about microdosing MDMA.

Having Sex on MDMA: What You Need to Know
MDMA is known as the love drug… Read our guide to learn all about sex on MDMA and why it is beginning to makes its way into couple’s therapy.

How MDMA is Made: Common Procedures Explained
Ever wonder how to make MDMA? Read our guide to learn everything you need to know about the procedures of how MDMA is made.

Hippie Flipping: When Shrooms and Molly Meet
What is it, what does it feel like, and how long does it last? Explore the mechanics of hippie flipping and how to safely experiment.

How Cocaine is Made: Common Procedures Explained
Ever wonder how to make cocaine? Read our guide to learn everything you need to know about the procedures of how cocaine is made.

A Christmas Sweater with Santa and Cocaine
This week, Walmart came under fire for a “Let it Snow” Christmas sweater depicting Santa with lines of cocaine. Columbia is not merry about it.

Ultimate Cocaine Guide: Effects, Common Uses, Safety
This guide covers what you need to know about Cocaine, including common effects and uses, legality, safety precautions and top trends today.

NEWS: An FDA-Approved Cocaine Nasal Spray
The FDA approved a cocaine nasal spray called Numbrino, which has raised suspicions that the pharmaceutical company, Lannett Company Inc., paid off the FDA..

The Ultimate Guide to Cannabis Bioavailability
What is bioavailability and how can it affect the overall efficacy of a psychedelic substance? Read to learn more.

Cannabis Research Explains Sociability Behaviors
New research by Dr. Giovanni Marsicano shows social behavioral changes occur as a result of less energy available to the neurons. Read here to learn more.

The Cannabis Shaman
If recreational and medical use of marijuana is becoming accepted, can the spiritual use as well? Experiential journalist Rak Razam interviews Hamilton Souther, founder of the 420 Cannabis Shamanism movement…

Cannabis Guide: Effects, Common Uses, Safety
Our ultimate guide to Cannabis has everything you want to know about this popular substances that has psychedelic properties.

Cannabis and Ayahuasca: Mixing Entheogenic Plants
Cannabis and Ayahuasca: most people believe they shouldn’t be mixed. Read this personal experience peppered with thoughts from a procannabis Peruvian Shaman.

CBD-Rich Cannabis Versus Single-Molecule CBD
A ground-breaking study has documented the superior therapeutic properties of whole plant Cannabis extract as compared to synthetic cannabidiol (CBD), challenging the medical-industrial complex’s notion that “crude” botanical preparations are less effective than single-molecule compounds.

Cannabis Has Always Been a Medicine
Modern science has already confirmed the efficacy of cannabis for most uses described in the ancient medical texts, but prohibitionists still claim that medical cannabis is “just a ruse.”

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